Administrator KVW 3452 post s 12-Sep-2007 2:02 PM	Yes, I'm prototyping one. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
No 6 1 post 15-Sep-2007 7:14 PM	I am interested in purchasing two of your uppers, but have some questions I need to ask you. Only problem is that my emails keep getting returned by your mail server. Would you please white list my email address so I can contact you. ETA: When do you plan on accepting pre-orders for the uppers? Last Edited on 15-Sep-2007 7:26 PM
No 6 2 post s 15-Sep-2007 7:29 PM	AllenR, email me if you would. I'd like to compare ideas/specs on the uppers.
No 6 3 post s 15-Sep-2007 9:01 PM	Right back at 'ya.
Administrator KVW 3460 post s 17-Sep-2007 1:52 PM	"I am interested in purchasing two of your uppers, but have some questions I need to ask you. Only problem is that my emails keep getting returned by your mail server. Would you please white list my email address so I can contact you. ETA: When do you plan on accepting pre-orders for the uppers?" Yopur e-mail is getting through. Accepting orders for standard uppers/conversions. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
Administrator KVW 3463 post s 17-Sep-2007 2:00 PM	Yes. I produce Oly-style uppers. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
Administrator KVW 3480 post s 25-Sep-2007 2:25 PM	Yes, they will, with the correct parts installed. Awaiting barrel blanks from my bud... Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
Administrator KVW 3490 post s 2-Oct-2007 2:20 PM	The .45 gas gun would utilize a standard rotory bolt opened up, as I do for the Rem. BR calibers. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
Administrator KVW 3495 post s 2-Oct-2007 3:00 PM	Yes, for blowback uppers. An M9Evo .45 upper is a gas gun, a different animal. SAT. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
Administrator KVW 3498 post s 4-Oct-2007 11:42 AM	One is under development. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
Administrator KVW 3503 post s 5-Oct-2007 5:27 AM	What's the ID of your PRI tube? Briley/Clark's HG works as shown on my M/L Evo: The downside is the inability for the carbon fiber to support threads for attaching the rails. I've done it with a long steel tapped rail which runs on the inside of the HG, but on the top I'd lose the clearance I need. I have many (cough, cough) M9Evo's to build, so finding time to prototype the .45 will be tough, but I will get it done. Note that the gas system will be pistol length. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF Last Edited on 5-Oct-2007 10:22 AM
No 6 4 post s 16-Oct-2007 5:58 AM	Any time frame for a gas piston, rotary bolt, .45 upper? When will you start accepting orders? Pricing?
buckmeister 2 post s 28-Oct-2007 7:53 PM	I would be interested in a piston or gas rotary bolt .45 AR upper. Would it be compatible with the CavArms MKII lower? buckmeister
No 6 6 post s 24-Dec-2007 10:06 AM	Any updates on the piston upper for the AR45?
Administrator KVW 3570 post s 30-Dec-2007 12:09 PM	I'll get a bolt in here and open it up to rim dimensions. I need one for my .358 KKF anyway. I have a short .45 blank on hand that I can chamber and modify the standard barrel extension for the fatter straight case, as I did with my .452 SwampKing. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF Last Edited on 11-Jan-2008 3:24 PM
Rob1911a1 1 post 9-Jan-2008 11:23 AM	I have to admit that I too like the idea of an AR in .45acp OR 10mm. Have you conducted tests from a 16 inch barrel to see how much more velocity one gets? How about magazines? Would we buy them from you, and how much would they cost? How much would an upper or complete rifle in one of these calibers cost? I prefer bullet mass to velocity, which is why the .357 Sig round is slightly less attractive. Hope to hear a reply on this on your forum. Oh, and by the way, where are your price lists for things, or am I missing something on your site? Thanks, Bob Anderson Rob1911a1 (guess what my favority pistol is!)
Administrator KVW 3581 post s 9-Jan-2008 3:53 PM	The impetus of all this comes from the dedicated .45 ACP lowers that utilize GG mags. Admittedly, the 45ACP is factory loaded for our favorite 5" gun. Much past 9", it's pretty much burned its powder. You can beat that by handloading with slower powders, but pressures can be deceiving, and cases can suffer. Shortened WinMag cases are the order here. A good choice for factory fodder is the 11.5/5.5 that is so popular here. I'm running a 9"/7" combo. The 9mm, in certain loadings (Federal BP, data from SWAT Magazine) actually benefits from a 16" barrel such as on my Marlin Camp Carbine. I think the 9mm peters out in 12" or so according to current lore. The 357 SIG is a different animal. It's a bottleneck cartridge that REALLY get's going in a 16" barrel, defeating level II body armor. Read the article on my 357 SIG in GWLE in the top menu bar. Once I get my steady flow of 45 barrel blanks, I'll get a pricing sheet up...somewhere... Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF Last Edited on 9-Jan-2008 4:06 PM
AllenR 15 post s 11-Jan-2008 2:01 PM	Alright! An update. Keep us posted and let us know when we can order.
Administrator KVW 3582 post s 11-Jan-2008 3:26 PM	I ordered a bolt that I'll open up to .308 dimensions for the 45 ACP. Let's see if I can make a rotory-bolt 45 ACP... Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
No 6 7 post s 11-Jan-2008 7:31 PM	Now it's going to get interesting....
Administrator KVW 3584 post s 12-Jan-2008 6:00 AM	It's all about power-to-weight. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
No 6 8 post s 12-Jan-2008 10:03 AM	More "power", less "waiting".
No 6 9 post s 12-Jan-2008 6:30 PM	"Think so? GFY!" ??? Don't understand. Last Edited on 12-Jan-2008 6:31 PM
Administrator KVW 3588 post s 14-Jan-2008 10:00 AM	Never mind. I was feeling touchy that day. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
No 6 10 post s 14-Jan-2008 1:57 PM	No problem. Can't wait to see progress on this project! Please keep us updated.
Administrator KVW 3589 post s 14-Jan-2008 2:15 PM	Parts are ordered and should be here this week. I have a pistol gas tube, which I can use with a quick-dismount gas block to do the testing. Then it becomes a balancing act between port size and springs. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF Last Edited on 14-Jan-2008 2:16 PM
AllenR 16 post s 14-Jan-2008 3:20 PM	Will this initially be a gas tube versus a gas piston variety?
Administrator KVW 3590 post s 15-Jan-2008 4:38 AM	Yes. Like others, the conversion comes after, especially when breaking new ground. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF
buckmeister 3 post s 17-Jan-2008 3:23 PM	I have an OlyArms .45 cal upper. Would it be more cost effective to have you put a new extension on it and drill a gas port, or buy a new barrel from you? I am vey interested in your system, either DI or piston. Pre-orders? buckmeister Last Edited on 18-Jan-2008 7:38 AM
trwalsh 1 post 23-Jan-2008 10:11 AM	Kurt, What popular free float rail systems are compatible with your evo piston system, if any? For now, I would like to have you build me an Olympic style blowback SBR upper for my cncguns AR45 lower using a Vltor VIS-1 upper/rail combo unit. And then when you get the .45acp piston system running well, send it back to you and have you convert it. Will this work? Or should I just wait a little longer and get your piston from the start? Same question for the 5.45x39 upper. Is the carbon fiber tube the only choice? Thanks, Thomas
trwalsh 2 post s 23-Jan-2008 10:23 AM	Kurt, let me re-phrase my question a little. I see that you can use a LaRue FF rail, which is great. However, can the whole thing fit inside the rail including your low profile piston gas block, since you said you'll use a pistol length set-up? I was interested in using the Vltor VIS or KAC RAS because it would give me an un-interrupted rail on top.
No 6 11 post s 30-Jan-2008 6:57 PM	Any updates?
No 6 12 post s 1-Mar-2008 9:17 AM	Any news?
AllenR 17 post s 4-Mar-2008 4:59 PM	One of these days Mitch might actually finish my lower and I will desperately need one of these. When can we order?
No 6 13 post s 27-Mar-2008 7:45 PM	Update?
AllenR 18 post s 24-Apr-2008 11:53 AM	Any news? I almost have my #2 receiver finished (doing it myself-I may never get #1 from Khalan).
Administrator KVW 3751 post s 25-Apr-2008 4:04 AM	In its current configuration, this is as short as I can go. The port needs to be close to the chamber. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF Member-The Fightin' 420/Sumter Div.
buckmeister 5 post s 27-Apr-2008 10:55 AM	I am drooling! How much and when is one available? Will it work with a CavArms lower? buckmeister Slightly off topic: Have you cosidered a piston 9mm or a 7.62 TOK? Last Edited on 27-Apr-2008 11:04 AM
No 6 14 post s 27-Apr-2008 11:39 AM	It's alive, it's ALIVE.
AllenR 19 post s 27-Apr-2008 4:41 PM	Great! When can we order?
Administrator KVW 3757 post s 28-Apr-2008 6:09 AM	That's as short as I can get the system. Now to mount it on a 45ACP and see if it works. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF Member-The Fightin' 420/Sumter Div.
AllenR 20 post s 1-May-2008 4:03 PM	WELL???
No 6 15 post s 1-May-2008 4:32 PM	Kurt, do you have the capability to do the finish work on CNC's AR45 lowers? My guess is that you do, but more importantly, would you be willing to finish two receivers? Last Edited on 1-May-2008 6:39 PM
AllenR 21 post s 12-May-2008 12:05 PM	Curious minds want to know...any updates???? Last Edited on 12-May-2008 12:05 PM
Administrator KVW 3782 post s 12-May-2008 3:22 PM	"Kurt, do you have the capability to do the finish work on CNC's AR45 lowers? My guess is that you do, but more importantly, would you be willing to finish two receivers?" I no longer do lower work commercially. These guys: Khalan do this kind of work. I have my .358 Kurtz bolt ready: The same bolt works with 45 ACP. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF Member-The Fightin' 420/Sumter Div. Last Edited on 12-May-2008 3:27 PM
AllenR 22 post s 12-May-2008 5:43 PM	Kurt, You need an update! Khalan is a total flake; I can't believe that you recommened him to No. 6. He has had 2 of No. 6's lowers since last summer and now has no record of them. They were even specially engraved "AR45SD". He has had one of my lowers since July 2007 and I still don't have it.
No 6 16 post s 12-May-2008 6:25 PM	QOUTE: "I no longer do lower work commercially. These guys: Khalan do this kind of work." I think Allen expressed the general frustration that most who are involved with that project feel. Personally, I'm a very patient person but, I am also a realist and want to seek out any available options. I appreciate your answer to my inquiry. On another note, what news on the function of your gas piston, rotary bolt .45 ACP upper?
Administrator KVW 3783 post s 13-May-2008 5:56 AM	"You need an update! Khalan is a total flake; I can't believe that you recommened him to No. 6. He has had 2 of No. 6's lowers since last summer and now has no record of them. They were even specially engraved "AR45SD". He has had one of my lowers since July 2007 and I still don't have it." Sorry, I didn't know that! Their website is still up, and I thought they were producing lowers. Really, I don't keep up with that stuff, I have bigger fish to fry. There are lots of charlatans out there, so stick with a known quantity. SAT! With this bolt, I'm ready to procede with the upper development. Thx! ---------- Kurt@KKF Member-The Fightin' 420/Sumter Div.
No 6 17 post s 13-May-2008 6:50 AM	QUOTE: "With this bolt, I'm ready to procede with the upper development." This is good news! At least we'll be able to beat someone to death with the upper, since we won't be able to shoot them (no lower)! LOL
Administrator KVW 3784 post s 13-May-2008 2:02 PM	At least I can test the uppers! A little more work to do. I know a little heat can get me going. WHY is Khalen dragging its feet? The market is hot enough that they can make some money. That's what you have to look at in a niche market. ---------- Kurt@KKF Member-The Fightin' 420/Sumter Div.